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This page is a draft of:

Maintenance of the "MediaWiki namespace":

What should upcoming Wikipedias know?

What knowledge transfer from other Wikipedias is suitable?

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Halló Kandar! It is quite late but I want to drop some lines for you.
Translating the user interface is quite a time-consuming job. Especially if special questions arrive.
I went to many wiki's and could see a lot of things that should be fixed. Most of them are not critical, but there are many "nice to have" features and often a simple hint would help and save time for readers and contributors.
I hope we can collect all the knowhow spread in the comunity, learn more abot MediaWiki, work more efficiently togther, get things fixed, and save a lot of time.

Let's begin with the critical one:

The content of MediaWiki:Clearyourcache differs in 80% of the wiki's from en:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache. I realised this while I have been told to use Live Preview, a java script made by es:User:Pilaf. In order to "synchronize (?)" Java it was not enough to press "CTRL-R" in Mozilla Firefox. I needed to press "CTRL-SHIFT-R", and during the first time I also needed to open the browser in a new window. I suggest that you translate the content of en:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache and insert it to su:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache.

"ugly"

Some wiki's still have the note about the "Fundraising Drive 2004" in MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Please insert just a minus sign ("-") in pages you do not use any more. Before you should compare your choice with the "default value". (It may be possible to use that page for a welcome notice - see mi:.)

"nice to have"

In order to have the "show|hide" "minor edits|bots|logged in users" you need to change two WikiMedia messages: MediaWiki:Showhideminor and MediaWiki:Rclinks. See en:MediaWiki:Showhideminor and en:MediaWiki:Rclinks. After the change you will see the result at Special:Recentchanges.
Compare with en:Special:Recentchanges and ro:Special:Recentchanges. You can add some useful links at MediaWiki:Recentchangestext. ro:MediaWiki:Recentchangestext contains all interlanguage links. Just remove su: and insert ro: . You could insert a link about the "Wikimania" conference.
Please make MediaWiki:Sharedupload the same as ro:MediaWiki:Sharedupload. At the end of ro:MediaWiki:Sharedupload is a <br /> . Do not forget it. Do not insert interlanguage links. This is just a test.

"broken links" – This set of messages contain "< href="/wiki/Special:...". Instead of "plain links", "piped links" should be used.

Example MediaWiki:Mailnologintext

not OK:

Anjeun kudu <a href="{{localurl:Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences">préferénsi</a> anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

OK:

Anjeun kudu [[Special:Userlogin|asup log]] sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na [[Special:Preferences|préferénsi]] anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

These changes should be made in many wiki's at:

MediaWiki:Addedwatchtext – Many Wikipedias generate broken HTML links if you add a page to your watchlist.
MediaWiki:Mailnologintext
MediaWiki:Movenologintext
MediaWiki:Prefsnologintext
MediaWiki:Prefsnologintext
MediaWiki:Uploadnologintext
MediaWiki:Watchnologintext
possibly others

"hazard site effects"

Some wiki's are using / used [[$1]] at MediaWiki:Removedwatchtext. If an image or a category is added to the watchlist, this looks odd. Use a colon to generate an "inline link": [[:$1]]. Sometimes the same change is required also at MediaWiki:Removedwatchtext.

translation of newest MediaWiki messages

Many wiki's have not paid attention to the new MediaWiki messages introduced in version 1.4. They still display English texts. Some messages are even "older" than 1.4 .

Synchronising Special:Allmessages with Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php

I will not change Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php.

If you change MediaWiki texts please do not forget to copy the messages from only a part of LanguageSu.php and paste the clipboard into Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php.
Please verify the change history of Wikipedia:LanguageSu.php#php (if other users modified it) and include the changes in Special:Allmessages.

Hope you can use these notes. Enjoy your work! Best reagrds Gangleri 00:21, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

07:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Halló Kandar! Thanks for your work and sorry for this "draft gidelines". I have a long list of items and did not check if the changes where already implemented at su: or not. I will be more precisly. In the following text "OK" means that the syntax is OK. I can not comment the translation because I do not understand Basa Sunda.

The changes for MediaWiki:Clearyourcache, MediaWiki:Recentchangestext and MediaWiki:Sharedupload are OK

MediaWiki:Mailnologintext – please revert to [1]

not OK:

Anjeun kudu <a href="{{localurl:Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences">préferénsi</a> anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

OK:

Anjeun kudu [[Special:Userlogin|asup log]] sarta boga alamat surélék nu sah na [[Special:Preferences|préferénsi]] anjeun sangkan bisa nyurélékan pamaké séjén.

MediaWiki:Movenologintext – please revert to [2]

not OK:

Anjeun kudu jadi pamaké nu kadaptar tur <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun mindahkeun kaca.

OK:

Anjeun kudu jadi pamaké nu kadaptar tur [[Special:Userlogin|asup log]] pikeun mindahkeun kaca.

MediaWiki:Watchnologintext – please revert to [3]

not OK:

Anjeun kudu <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun ngarobah awaskeuneun.

OK:

Anjeun kudu [[Special:Userlogin|asup log]] pikeun ngarobah awaskeuneun.

MediaWiki:Uploadnologintext – please revert to [4]

not OK:

Anjeun kudu <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">asup log</a> pikeun ngamuat koropak.

OK:

Anjeun kudu [[Special:Userlogin|asup log]] pikeun ngamuat koropak.

Sorry about the confusion. I tray to avoid this in the future. Best reagrds Gangleri 07:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Some tests with "localurl" are available at zh-min-nan:User:Gangleri/tests. Best regards Gangleri 22:09, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

23:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi! It should be investigated if MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and MediaWiki:Userjspreview should include the same information as MediaWiki:Clearyourcache. I found "old style'" information at de:MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and de:MediaWiki:Userjspreview which is / (was?) not included at de:MediaWiki:Usercsspreview and de:MediaWiki:Userjspreview. Hopefully a qualified answer will be available soon. Best regards Gangleri 23:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

01:45, 2 Méi 2005 (UTC)

bugzilla:2045 quit difficult to understand. Regards Gangleri 01:45, 2 Méi 2005 (UTC)

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